What I mean is that he doesn't really seem to know how to construct a song.. it's just a wall of rapping - he doesn't really give you time to appreciate what he's doing by switching it up and changing the tone.
I think that's actually why he's so good over the 93 and papparazzi beat - because the original has come before so he's got those parameters to work in. Not saying everything should just follow the standard rap track structure, but man, he has a lot of songs that are either a wall of rap, just have purely terrible hooks and choruses, or a combination of the two (and inevitably then bloated and overlong).
So that's something I felt came across when watching him live - I get fatigued with it. Although it's good, it's a lot of the same..
He was saying of the way he worked with Madlib - they would send each other stuff back and forth, but like, he'd rap over something Madlib sent him and what he'd then get back from Madlib was something completely different, changing the beat, changing the whole arrangement of the track and they go back and forth kinda moulding something that ends up completely different.
Thinking about, I think it's a lot like what Madlib accomplished with Percee P. I think he's a guy with a lot of the same talents and flaws, and Madlib absolutely brought the best out of him... whereas other rappers can just straight take a beat off a Beat Konducta album and make a nice track of it, they really benefit from his concentrated attention actually as a producer in the most traditional sense of it.
As regards his flow - could you give me distinct examples of slow and fast? I'm struggling to hear it. Sure, sometimes it's got a bit of a more laid back sound to it and sometimes more stacatto - I think he responds to the vibe of the beat to that extent; I don't think he's just spitting to a metronome totally regardless of the track. But could do with an assist to totally comprehend what you're getting at!
Ultimately I do think it's hard to say though, because he does just rap over a lot of really shitty beats.
Here is Freddie again, making an absoultely belting track over a beat from an original that I would say is definitely a classic (Tupac - Bury me a G):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yztt5Phhizc
(youtube fucked at the minute.. will replace with an embed later I guess)
I think that's actually why he's so good over the 93 and papparazzi beat - because the original has come before so he's got those parameters to work in. Not saying everything should just follow the standard rap track structure, but man, he has a lot of songs that are either a wall of rap, just have purely terrible hooks and choruses, or a combination of the two (and inevitably then bloated and overlong).
So that's something I felt came across when watching him live - I get fatigued with it. Although it's good, it's a lot of the same..
He was saying of the way he worked with Madlib - they would send each other stuff back and forth, but like, he'd rap over something Madlib sent him and what he'd then get back from Madlib was something completely different, changing the beat, changing the whole arrangement of the track and they go back and forth kinda moulding something that ends up completely different.
Thinking about, I think it's a lot like what Madlib accomplished with Percee P. I think he's a guy with a lot of the same talents and flaws, and Madlib absolutely brought the best out of him... whereas other rappers can just straight take a beat off a Beat Konducta album and make a nice track of it, they really benefit from his concentrated attention actually as a producer in the most traditional sense of it.
As regards his flow - could you give me distinct examples of slow and fast? I'm struggling to hear it. Sure, sometimes it's got a bit of a more laid back sound to it and sometimes more stacatto - I think he responds to the vibe of the beat to that extent; I don't think he's just spitting to a metronome totally regardless of the track. But could do with an assist to totally comprehend what you're getting at!
Ultimately I do think it's hard to say though, because he does just rap over a lot of really shitty beats.
Here is Freddie again, making an absoultely belting track over a beat from an original that I would say is definitely a classic (Tupac - Bury me a G):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yztt5Phhizc
(youtube fucked at the minute.. will replace with an embed later I guess)
Oh yeah, just to say - you are spot on as regards his natural charisma and authenticity.
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